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that attack also taking place in benghazi. and then a week after that, islamist militants attacked another consulate in benghazi, the consulate of tunisia. so, yes, there is that video, this crude, anti-muslim video which is the latest anti-muslim provocation causing protests and riots around the world. we will talk more about that later. but what happened last night in libya does not seem to be the spontaneous outburst of a crowd that had its sensitivities offended by religious provocation. it does not seem to have been that kind of violence, at least at this early date. that angry religious mob phenomenon is part of the relevant context for understanding how an american ambassador was killed last night. but it may also be just as relevant to put it in context, put it in the context of other terrorist attacks, organized terrorist attack on other u.s. embassies, like in kenya and tanzania in 1998. obviously, this is not on the same scale, but this may have been the same kind of target. you saw the president and the vice presid
that attack also taking place in benghazi. and then a week after that, islamist militants attacked another consulate in benghazi, the consulate of tunisia. so, yes, there is that video, this crude, anti-muslim video which is the latest anti-muslim provocation causing protests and riots around the world. we will talk more about that later. but what happened last night in libya does not seem to be the spontaneous outburst of a crowd that had its sensitivities offended by religious provocation. it...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. president obama has ordered that flags fly at half-staff across the united states and at embassies around the world until sunday night. i'm wolf blitzer in for piers morgan. earlier today, the republican challenger, mitt romney blasted president obama for what he characterized as, quote, an apology for america's values over the storming of the u.s. embassy in cairo. >> an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> the president fired right back in an interview tonight with cbs news. >> governor romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and name later, and as president, one of the things i've learned is you can't do that, that, you know, it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them. >> and there are late-breaking developments right now. two u.s. navy warships are moving toward the coast of libya and 50 marines are on the ground in tripoli right
consulate in benghazi, libya. president obama has ordered that flags fly at half-staff across the united states and at embassies around the world until sunday night. i'm wolf blitzer in for piers morgan. earlier today, the republican challenger, mitt romney blasted president obama for what he characterized as, quote, an apology for america's values over the storming of the u.s. embassy in cairo. >> an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> the president fired...
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war damon, cnn, benghazi, libya. >>> so the attack on the benghazi consulate was the deadliest incident this sudden blazing fury towards the united states. but look at this, lebanon, sudan, india, and palestinian territories, tunisia, yemen, and, of course, egypt, violence and destruction to embassies, american schools and even fast food restaurants, all of this anger exploding from the arab world over an amateur hour video clip posted on the internet. that the government had nothing on do. inwant to ta i want to talk to the professor, former director of middle east studies at john hopkins university. thank you, professor, for joining us. your fascinating opinion piece in "the washington post" is title why is the arab world so easily offended. let's hear it. why is the arab world so easily offended? >> you know, don, i wish i could give you a succinct answer. i think we know what we know. we know anti-americanism is like the standard diet particularly important the young people. when you talk about a world which is angry, when you talk about a world with mass unemployment, political dic
war damon, cnn, benghazi, libya. >>> so the attack on the benghazi consulate was the deadliest incident this sudden blazing fury towards the united states. but look at this, lebanon, sudan, india, and palestinian territories, tunisia, yemen, and, of course, egypt, violence and destruction to embassies, american schools and even fast food restaurants, all of this anger exploding from the arab world over an amateur hour video clip posted on the internet. that the government had nothing...
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consulate in benghazi. people taking to the streets yesterday in the thousands, demanding democracy. but more importantly, demanding an end to these extremist militias whom people and the government here say were in fact behind that attack that took ambassador stevens' life and the life of three other americans. what happened is that at night on friday hundreds of these pro-democracy demonstrators began taking the situation into their own hands and storming various headquarters of known extremists militias in the city of benghazi, including the headquarters of the militia. and the libyan government says it has detained individuals who are part of the association on the u.s. consulate, although they say the group as a whole was not behind that assault. >> cnn's arwa damon reporting there. >>> it's getting close. just 45 days until election day, president obama back on the campaign trail in wisconsin. >> barack obama! >> he held a rally this just the last hour in milwaukee. and earlier today he held a couple
consulate in benghazi. people taking to the streets yesterday in the thousands, demanding democracy. but more importantly, demanding an end to these extremist militias whom people and the government here say were in fact behind that attack that took ambassador stevens' life and the life of three other americans. what happened is that at night on friday hundreds of these pro-democracy demonstrators began taking the situation into their own hands and storming various headquarters of known...
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he spent a lost time in benghazi and was a friend of chris stevens. paul wolfowitz was the secretary of defense under president george. with bush and the president of the world bank and tariq ramadan. he's an author. ramadan's grandfather was the founder of the muslim brotherhood. bernard, tell us what you can tell us about libya. does this -- does this -- do these events mean that libya has gone seriously awry? >> i would like first of all, fareed, to tell you what i know and what i remember about ambassador stevens. he was a great guy, a great fellow, great ambassador, and a great american. he was the embodiment of the best and his death is terrible loss for all of us and a loss for libya, and a loss for libya. what the imbeseals who kills him probably did not know is he was one of the best friends libya all around the world. if the dictatorship of gadhafi failed it is due in a big part to ambassador chris stevens and i want to pay him homage today before anything else. >> but what does it tell you about libya? have the extremists become so strong i
he spent a lost time in benghazi and was a friend of chris stevens. paul wolfowitz was the secretary of defense under president george. with bush and the president of the world bank and tariq ramadan. he's an author. ramadan's grandfather was the founder of the muslim brotherhood. bernard, tell us what you can tell us about libya. does this -- does this -- do these events mean that libya has gone seriously awry? >> i would like first of all, fareed, to tell you what i know and what i...
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there are also other demonstrations also in benghazi. but he said that a senior libyan security official in tripoli told his mission that they were worried about the possibility of these protests turning violent tomorrow. but anderson, these are not anti-american or anti-western protests. they are protests, a continuation of what we saw in benghazi last friday, people taking to the streets, putting pressure on the government to disband militias and create security forces. they actually protest against extremism, but we did see these protests turn violent last friday and there is that concern that could happen tomorrow in tripoli. we did see the u.s. embassy this evening posting on its website a warning for u.s. citizens in tripoli and in benghazi who remain in country to avoid the two main squares in these cities because of the demonstrations, saying that while they are expected to be peaceful protests, that they can be unpredictable and could turn violent. >> bob, as i said earlier, we heard leon panetta, the defense secretary, using th
there are also other demonstrations also in benghazi. but he said that a senior libyan security official in tripoli told his mission that they were worried about the possibility of these protests turning violent tomorrow. but anderson, these are not anti-american or anti-western protests. they are protests, a continuation of what we saw in benghazi last friday, people taking to the streets, putting pressure on the government to disband militias and create security forces. they actually protest...
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another version of exactly what went down in libya nearly two weeks ago. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. >> the confusion started on september 12. >> no acts of terror what other shake this nation. >> top officials spent the next week insisting they could not say it was a terror attack and suggested it was more likely a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim film. >> in fact, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. >> i will not put labels on this until we have a complete investigation. >> our interest is in finding the facts of what happened, not taking what we have read in the newspaper in making bold assertions. >> even when carney flipped his thinking and told reporters it was self evident there was a terror attack within a couple of hours, the president was asked whether it was terror and would not directly answer. >> we are still doing an investigation. there will be different circumstances in different countries. i do not want to speak on anything until we have more information. >> the ping-pong answers coupled with a closed door briefing, the senat
another version of exactly what went down in libya nearly two weeks ago. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. >> the confusion started on september 12. >> no acts of terror what other shake this nation. >> top officials spent the next week insisting they could not say it was a terror attack and suggested it was more likely a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim film. >> in fact, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. >> i will not...
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. >> haven't been on the ground in benghazi? >> no, they have no. the fbi has finally made it to tripoli, they haven't been on the ground in bengazi. they deployed their personal to a location in the region. they have conducted interviews of personnel who were there at the time of the attack. they've not been able to get -- gotten as far as tripoli, but not to benghazi. they made a request that the crime scene be secured. as we know from reporting, the state department -- we don't know whether that request was put to the libyans and whether that was denied. what happened to it. what we know for sure, the crime scene was never secured, and the senior law enforcement official i spoke to said if we get there now, it is not clear whether it will be of any use to us. and the third critical and astonishing point was, look, one of the things we have to do is question the individuals that the libyans have in custody to get to the bottom, to understand what they are learning and, in fact, they made that request through the state departme
. >> haven't been on the ground in benghazi? >> no, they have no. the fbi has finally made it to tripoli, they haven't been on the ground in bengazi. they deployed their personal to a location in the region. they have conducted interviews of personnel who were there at the time of the attack. they've not been able to get -- gotten as far as tripoli, but not to benghazi. they made a request that the crime scene be secured. as we know from reporting, the state department -- we don't...
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in benghazi, the city where the u.s. diplomat chris stevens was killed, there were peaceful protests, protesters holding messages of apology and thought for the united states. some signs read thugs and killers don't represent benghazi and rest in peace, chris stevens. >>> the film that's sparking so many violent protests around the world. we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entertaining. year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. >>> that youtube film that started violent middle east protests apparently starred actors who had absolutely no idea they were acting in an anti-islamic movie. as miguel marquez reports, one of those actors is stunned and quite emotional about it all. >> she responded to a generic casting call for what was billed as an action adventure film, low-budget affair called, at t
in benghazi, the city where the u.s. diplomat chris stevens was killed, there were peaceful protests, protesters holding messages of apology and thought for the united states. some signs read thugs and killers don't represent benghazi and rest in peace, chris stevens. >>> the film that's sparking so many violent protests around the world. we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a...
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the libyans advised the americans to decrease their presence in benghazi. and the libyans say the u.s. embassy officials did not ask for more security at that meeting. and as cnn has reported, sources familiar with chris stevens' thinking say he was worried about the security threats in benghazi and in libya. and he was concerned that he could be a target. in terms of whether the attacks were preplanned, libyan officials have since day one said that attack was preplanned. now, so far the u.s. government response has frankly been confusing. u.n. ambassador susan rice has said the attacks were not preplanned. secretary clinton said she had absolutely no information or reason to believe there is any basis to suggest that the u.s. ambassador was on an al qaeda hit list as a target. the state department said u.s. officials at that post never passed along the warning from the libyan government on militias and security in benghazi. now the administration appears to be backtracking a little bit, at least on the assertion about whether the attack was preplanned or n
the libyans advised the americans to decrease their presence in benghazi. and the libyans say the u.s. embassy officials did not ask for more security at that meeting. and as cnn has reported, sources familiar with chris stevens' thinking say he was worried about the security threats in benghazi and in libya. and he was concerned that he could be a target. in terms of whether the attacks were preplanned, libyan officials have since day one said that attack was preplanned. now, so far the u.s....
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are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn over these responsibilities to them, and leave. now how can we train and work with these people if so many them are killing americans we can't even train and operate with them? by that policy, it has been an abject failure. >> we'll talk more with senator mccain about domestic issues a bit later in the program. first, bob baer and fran townsend. fran, served as a member of the cia external advisory committee, and last month visited libya with her employer, mccannkancan forbes. he said that there were security concerns. >> we had a long conversat
are you saying president obama is benghazi? >> no, but i'm saying he's responsible for failure in afghanistan and iraq. iraq is now disintegrating, al qaeda is coming back. we didn't leave a residual force in afghanistan, he overruled his military advisers on several occasions, including 30,000 instead of 40,000 for the surge and accelerated withdrawal dates and now we have a situation where taliban and our enemies know we are leaving, and the whole premise, was to train afghans to turn...
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personnel in benghazi. we've got a lot to talk about tonight with former homeland security advisor fran townsend. as we often mention, fran's a member of the external advisory committee, and recently visited libya with her employer. also joining us, former cia officer bob baer. i don't want to get into the journalistic details with you, but there's no doubt, what do you make of the fact that this consulate in benghazi three days after the attack apparently wasn't being guarded and journalists are wandering all over the place, and anybody could have been wandering all over the place. >> anderson, lost in the dispute over the journal is the fact that this calls into question the integrity of what is now an fbi investigation. one of the first thing law enforcement officers do when they begin an investigation is secure the crime scene. first and foremost, this is the consulate. now, they were going to have challenges to that. the fbi couldn't get in because of security conditions. u.s. personnel, nonessential p
personnel in benghazi. we've got a lot to talk about tonight with former homeland security advisor fran townsend. as we often mention, fran's a member of the external advisory committee, and recently visited libya with her employer. also joining us, former cia officer bob baer. i don't want to get into the journalistic details with you, but there's no doubt, what do you make of the fact that this consulate in benghazi three days after the attack apparently wasn't being guarded and journalists...
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and of course, how easily manipulated. >> arwa damon in benghazi, be careful. fran, thank you very much. on wednesday we reported that a source familiar with ambassador stevens' thinking said in the months before his death, ambassador stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in benghazi. we also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in islamic extremism, the growing al qaeda presence in libya and said he was on an al qaeda hit list. the information for that report like all of cnn's reporting was carefully vetted. some ofat inrmation wa(dws found in a personal journal of ambassador stevens in his handwriting. we came upon the journal through our reporting and notified the family. at theirrequest, we returned that journal to them.=k we reported what we found newsworthy ithe we found newsworthy in the ambassador's wtings. let us know what you think. we're on faceboo follow me on twitter. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> up next, the attack's political fallout here at home. has president obama'sandlin
and of course, how easily manipulated. >> arwa damon in benghazi, be careful. fran, thank you very much. on wednesday we reported that a source familiar with ambassador stevens' thinking said in the months before his death, ambassador stevens talked about being worried about what he called the never-ending security threats in benghazi. we also reported that the ambassador specifically mentioned the rise in islamic extremism, the growing al qaeda presence in libya and said he was on an al...
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consulate in benghazi returned to the andrews air force base this afternoon. president obama was there and he vowed to bring justice to the men who killed them. >> even as voices of suspicious and mistrust that seek to devid countries and cultures, the united states of america will never retreat from the world. >> four people have been arrested in libya what were on the scene of the attack, but the government says they are not linked to the murders. that investigation continues and we have a live report on that now. arwa damon is with me from benghazi tonight and i know you had a chance to go to the consulate there. what did you see? >> reporter: it was really quite chilling, horrifying to be walking through some of the buildings there just imagining what had transpired, taken place. they were all burnt. there was black soot covering the walls. ashes over some of the furniture, the chandeliers. there was debris all over the floor. looters also had moved in after the attack took place pillaging this compound that even after the assault was not really secured bu
consulate in benghazi returned to the andrews air force base this afternoon. president obama was there and he vowed to bring justice to the men who killed them. >> even as voices of suspicious and mistrust that seek to devid countries and cultures, the united states of america will never retreat from the world. >> four people have been arrested in libya what were on the scene of the attack, but the government says they are not linked to the murders. that investigation continues and...
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the attack in benghazi, libya. what more are we learning about the attacks and the measures the state department is trying to take to ensure the safety of its personnel left in benghazi, tripoli, and elsewhere? >> you have a couple of things, anderson. what they're trying to do is make sure the security of the people who are left, and that's only in tripoli, not in benghazi, is assured, so they're sending some marines. it's kind of like a quick reaction for us to the embassy in tripoli to beef that up. they're also notifying troops around the world that potentially they could be used in various ways to ensure the security of american personnel and then, of course, as you mentioned, you've got the destroyers. this would be the destroyers and the drones would be used more, let's say, if the president determined that it was a time to strike against whoever was the group that carried out this attack. >> and we'll have a look back at the life of the ambassador, a remarkable career. jill and jomana, we'll check in with y
the attack in benghazi, libya. what more are we learning about the attacks and the measures the state department is trying to take to ensure the safety of its personnel left in benghazi, tripoli, and elsewhere? >> you have a couple of things, anderson. what they're trying to do is make sure the security of the people who are left, and that's only in tripoli, not in benghazi, is assured, so they're sending some marines. it's kind of like a quick reaction for us to the embassy in tripoli to...
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have given him more security, particularly in benghazi. as you know, that country is divided very badly, and there's significant competition, and there's far more islamic influence in that part of libya than in tripoli. >> you previously mentioned that people in the obama administration said it was not a planned attack and sort of the offshoot of this youtube video, but the director of the terro terrorist scenter said that it did appear to be a terrorist attack. how significant do you think that is? >> i think it is significant that the president's spokesperson would go on our networks and tell people thing that is are absolutely false and by the way, fly in the face of the facts. i think maybe the american people are owed an apology. but the most important thing that we have to understand is that this video is not the cause of it. islamists who use these videos use these videos to inflame people to attack america. i'm confident that people are making videos right now. we should be standing up for freedom of speech and that we will defend
have given him more security, particularly in benghazi. as you know, that country is divided very badly, and there's significant competition, and there's far more islamic influence in that part of libya than in tripoli. >> you previously mentioned that people in the obama administration said it was not a planned attack and sort of the offshoot of this youtube video, but the director of the terro terrorist scenter said that it did appear to be a terrorist attack. how significant do you...
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the attack in benghazi was planned in advance. u.s. marines are now racing to libya to help secure the consulate. president obama is promising justice. joemana karadsheh is in tripoli, libya, for us. this tension that erupted, do you feel it in tripoli? >> reporter: actually, no, don. i was out and about today in tripoli. life seems to be normal. people are hearing about what happened and most of the libyans that i have spoken to are outraged by what happened. they are condemning this attack saying it's not representative of the libyan people and their sentiments towards the united states and towards the west. they are saying that they are grateful for the role that the united states plays. many are familiar with ambassador stevens and the role e he played. people are really saddened by this attack. they are really shocked. it's also seen as a wake up call for the government here for authorities that have really not taken a strong stance. they have not taken action against these groups that we know are operating in eastern libya and th
the attack in benghazi was planned in advance. u.s. marines are now racing to libya to help secure the consulate. president obama is promising justice. joemana karadsheh is in tripoli, libya, for us. this tension that erupted, do you feel it in tripoli? >> reporter: actually, no, don. i was out and about today in tripoli. life seems to be normal. people are hearing about what happened and most of the libyans that i have spoken to are outraged by what happened. they are condemning this...
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diplomatic mission in benghazi. thousands of libyans staged counterprotests today in a show of o support for the united states. many of them held signs thanking ambassador stevens for his service, and the libyan government was quick and forceful in its condemnation of the attacks. that, at least, is the situation in libya. in egypt, the conditions are much different. more protests against the offending anti-muslim film have been called for tomorrow. there have been no statements by the transitional government in egypt, not about the protests or about the reaction to them. it's also worth noting that the president did not mention the protests in cairo or the breach of the u.s. embassy in his statement today, indicating the continued volatility of the situation on the ground in egypt. all this is what my "washington post" colleague david ignatius calls, quote, the fog of revolution. these are two countries transitioning from decades of existence under despottic conditions to governments with at least some foundations
diplomatic mission in benghazi. thousands of libyans staged counterprotests today in a show of o support for the united states. many of them held signs thanking ambassador stevens for his service, and the libyan government was quick and forceful in its condemnation of the attacks. that, at least, is the situation in libya. in egypt, the conditions are much different. more protests against the offending anti-muslim film have been called for tomorrow. there have been no statements by the...
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our third story, benghazi gate. there is a deep disconnect in washington over what happened the nikt ambassador chris stevens was killed. today, leon panetta stepped in to the fray, finally using the t word. >> the reason i think pretty clearly it was a terrorist attack because a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate. and against our individuals. >> clearly, a terrorist attack. now, panetta stopped short of saying which terrorist group was specifically responsible, but for two weeks, the white house and state department have refrained from blaming terrorists directly and when hillary clinton started to ame al-qaeda, the state department backed off. here she is in the u.n. meeting we reported on last night connecting al-qaeda linked groups to what she called the tragic attack. >> for some time, al-qaeda in the islamic mag and other groups have launched attacks and kid p kidnappings to other countries and are working with other extremists to undermine the transitions in north africa as w
our third story, benghazi gate. there is a deep disconnect in washington over what happened the nikt ambassador chris stevens was killed. today, leon panetta stepped in to the fray, finally using the t word. >> the reason i think pretty clearly it was a terrorist attack because a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate. and against our individuals. >> clearly, a terrorist attack. now, panetta stopped short of saying which terrorist group was specifically...
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the libyan president was in benghazi today, too. harris. >> how does this impact the investigation and killings of ambassador and other three americans? >> harris, on the face of it it is a good thing. extremist and those with possible ties to al-qaida are being singled out by the libyan people and getting if you would like get rough street justice. however, there are two possible complications. first if these groups are disbanding and if they are dispersing, it might be harder to find those responsible for the killing of u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others. and stockholderly, the situation in benghazi is unsettled and we are seeing a lot of violence security is bad. from our indication fbi team that has been brought here in libya to go over to benghazi, to look at the crime scene is still here in tripoli. there are concerns of security. over all a positive reaction from the libyan people with what was a terrible crime and situation here. back to you . >> greg, you touched on my next question. how much access have the age
the libyan president was in benghazi today, too. harris. >> how does this impact the investigation and killings of ambassador and other three americans? >> harris, on the face of it it is a good thing. extremist and those with possible ties to al-qaida are being singled out by the libyan people and getting if you would like get rough street justice. however, there are two possible complications. first if these groups are disbanding and if they are dispersing, it might be harder to...
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now, what will they gain by going to benghazi and taking the security risk. they may decide not to go at all. >> so just to be clear, we're not sure at this point where the breakdown occurred in terms of who -- i mean, whether it was the libyans, whether it was -- or state department, we don't know where the breakdown occurred. >> no, that's right. anderson, it could have been something as simple as this sort of -- when the interagency discussion, the u.s. government writ large decided that if that's what you're required for your perimeter security, that indicated itself it was too dangerous and that they shouldn't be bothered, they shouldn't go at all. it's not even clear to us yet whether or not this request was put to the libyan government. >> fran, you say not only fbi investigators not gone to benghazi yet, but that some are not even in libya. >> that's right. anderson, whenever there's an international terrorism investigation, there's a protocol where fbi agents with palletized cargo and equipment predeploy in the region to get closer. in this case, tha
now, what will they gain by going to benghazi and taking the security risk. they may decide not to go at all. >> so just to be clear, we're not sure at this point where the breakdown occurred in terms of who -- i mean, whether it was the libyans, whether it was -- or state department, we don't know where the breakdown occurred. >> no, that's right. anderson, it could have been something as simple as this sort of -- when the interagency discussion, the u.s. government writ large...